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Poll: Do your kids say the Pledge of Allegiance at school?
  • 49% - Yes 310
  • 14.7% - No 93
  • 33.5% - I don't know. 212
  • 2.8% - I've got something to say about this in the comments. 18
633 votes

Well, how do you fare compared to the Zeitgeist? Chat up your fellow wooters and let us know how lame this poll was or what obvious choices we missed. For example: Was this poll a) STUPID, b) DUMB, c) POINTLESS or d) ALL OF THE ABOVE?

curtisuxor


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It's about time we took the "under God" out of the Pledge. Hasn't the threat of the red menace passed?

For parents that don't know, find out. It's important to explain to them what it means and why we say it at the start of each day. They don't bother to tell them why at school. It's also important to tell them that it is voluntary.

aradiakali


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curtisuxor wrote:It's about time we took the "under God" out of the Pledge. Hasn't the threat of the red menace passed?

For parents that don't know, find out. It's important to explain to them what it means and why we say it at the start of each day. They don't bother to tell them why at school. It's also important to tell them that it is voluntary.


Under God should be replaced with E Pluribus Unim (and we are so Lutheran my husband is in Lutheran Semenary)
My son's school says the Pledge everyday, and we live in the super liberal SF Bay Area.

What?

theother1


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My kid days it every day, with the under God part.

bassonmommy12


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Once a week (Monday) mornings.

mdkopper


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,

krdshrk


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I've found that many schools don't say the pledge, or only do it once a week. It should be EVERY DAY.

eholling


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I don't have kids.

Bouts of Consternation:
8/17/11; 9/14/11; 10/12/11; 11/09/11, 12/06/11; 4/26/12

And right now.

janse


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My kids have figured out how to bark the pledge in Moris code. They do it every time the mail man comes to the porch. ;)

ladyloerya


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I chose no, but to be fair, I will say that my 16 year old did when he was in elementary but they don't do it in jr and sr high and my 3 year old isn't in school. Personally, I don't mind it being said so much, but my children have my permission to choose whether to participate. If they choose not to, they are to respect those that do and stand quietly. I think my son always did though (well, I don't know of any stand out times that he didn't anyway).

dnlkolender


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he'd have to meow, the other cheep, the other silence it out.

(Cat, parrot, tortoise)... =D

carlees21


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curtisuxor wrote:It's about time we took the "under God" out of the Pledge. Hasn't the threat of the red menace passed?

For parents that don't know, find out. It's important to explain to them what it means and why we say it at the start of each day. They don't bother to tell them why at school. It's also important to tell them that it is voluntary.



I say: "Get over it!" I had an atheist German foreign exchange student stay with me, and she said it every day in school and didn't have a problem with it. If you don't like it, talk to your kids about it, otherwise who's is hurting? Seriously, find something more important to worry about, like why our government is wanting to turn our education into a socialistic society with "Common Core", teaching them to push other people over to get what they want instead of working hard to earn what they have.

curtisuxor


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carlees21 wrote:I say: "Get over it!" I had an atheist German foreign exchange student stay with me, and she said it every day in school and didn't have a problem with it. If you don't like it, talk to your kids about it, otherwise who's is hurting? Seriously, find something more important to worry about, like why our government is wanting to turn our education into a socialistic society with "Common Core", teaching them to push other people over to get what they want instead of working hard to earn what they have.



I appreciate that you completely overlooked the second part of my post.

Good for your German atheist, who is not a citizen of this land and to whom the words have no meaning. It infringes upon every citizen's establishment clause right (freedom from the establishment of a religion forced by Congressional laws) if they are taught the Pledge in public schools.

You do realize that the phrase is literally "under God" as in reference to the Judeo-Christian monotheistic deity. Everyone responsible for changing the Pledge made numerous references to this specific deity. It's not just offensive to people who have 0 gods; it's offensive to people that believe in a different deity or multiple deities along with the agnostics.

Seriously, find something more important to worry about, like why our government is wanting to turn our education into a socialistic society with "Common Core", teaching them to push other people over to get what they want instead of working hard to earn what they have.


So you must dislike the golden rule, as it interferes with your ability to screw over everyone else without moral dilemmas.

You are literally describing capitalism with the words "push[ing] other people over to get what they want". Everything is fair game in a free market. If you or your family ever took advantage of a government-sponsored socialistic program (such as public education), and you probably have, re-think your position.

If you dislike what the supposedly socialistic education programs have done, stop being lazy and start home-schooling your children.