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Proper nutrition was never a topic of conversation in my house growing up. I had a stay-at-home mom who cooked three square meals a day from scratch, each of which always included a veggie. Granted, they were rarely fresh, mostly frozen or canned, but they were veggies none-the-less. (I still can't look a canned asparagus in the eye. Blech.)

When I was old enough to go to school, she packed my lunch with the typical Wonder bread peanut butter and jelly or bologna sandwich and a healthy snack, usually fruit like an apple or banana or orange. It was not often that we were allowed "junk" like Little Debbie snack cakes or cookies. And it was only on very rare occasions that we'd get fast food. While other kids were starting their mornings with sugary cereals like Lucky Charms or Cocoa Puffs, it was eggs and toast or plain oatmeal for me.

But then when I was 6, my elderly grandmother moved in with us. She was very ill and had little interest in food except for sweets. So all of a sudden, the kitchen was fully stocked with cakes and cookies and ice cream. Before I knew it, I was the chubby kid. And I've struggled with my weight ever since—minus that period right after college that I have affectionately deemed "Amy: The Skinny Years." Ah, but a brief shining moment in history.

It's not like I didn't know the difference between healthy and non-healthy foods. It's just that it was never really presented to me in a cause/effect relationship with exercise and portion control. And then there was the "clean your plate" mentality that my parents, like many post-Depression Era babies, had ingrained. You better believe that if I didn't finish my dinner, it would be waiting for me at the table for breakfast.

Now with a son of my own (and a husband with a raging sweet tooth), I worry about teaching him proper diet and exercise when he's old enough to understand. I don't want to give the kid a complex, but the statistics for childhood obesity are alarming. 1 in 3 U.S. kids is considered overweight or obese. I don't want that for my son.

Parents with older children, what do you do? Do you let your child eat what he/she wants? Have you banned "junk" food completely, or do you allow it in moderation? Do you encourage your child to get outside and play or exercise some other way?
 

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I have four kids. I pack their lunches 4 days a week. They are allowed to choose a hot lunch one day a week. They have a hot, balanced healthy fresh food dinner every night, but one. My night off- either hubby whips up something or we go out. Even then they must choose a balanced dinner that included a veggie- even if that night is McD's they do nuggets, apples and milk. They have to eat their proteins and their veg. The carb can get left if they are full. I limit juice/lemonade. No soda-ever. They get a dessert every night. Like two Oreos, or a 1/2 an ice cream sandwich, or an apple/banana/orange. Summer they get more summer crap snacks-ie: popsicles,ice cream, donuts; but they are also way more active.All my kids do sports. The two year old just walks around and climbs and jumps and plays daily. Tv is on alot but it's more like a background while we do other stuff. Lots of hours that it isn't on too.That said. All of my kids are fit. Lean, strong beautiful healthy bodies. Me- I grew up like you I guess. Clean your plate, too much Atari indoors, or reading Nancy Drew or something, sports were sporadic and not encouraged. My kids know that calories are fuel and you use them then you need more. The know what a kid needs but they don't have to do that work. I do it subconsiously. The older two (9 snd 8) read labels. If someone wants more pasta or something they can trade it for their dessert. Oh, and birthdays/holidays/parties is free for all craptastic time. They can induldge for those 4 or five days a year.I think just being concious, not controlling but directing to good choices and awareness of how our bodies work and how food works for us is enough. The lessons have to fit the age. I don't want girls who are trying or dying to fit some false ideal. Healthy is the goal. And same for boys too, but they are a little different.

llandar


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Well, we know ONE thing you're not feeding your kids: wholesome, nutritious, natural breast milk.

Don't try to change the subject.

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sanssona wrote:I have four kids. I pack their lunches 4 days a week. They are allowed to choose a hot lunch one day a week. They have a hot, balanced healthy fresh food dinner every night, but one. My night off- either hubby whips up something or we go out. Even then they must choose a balanced dinner that included a veggie- even if that night is McD's they do nuggets, apples and milk. They have to eat their proteins and their veg. The carb can get left if they are full. I limit juice/lemonade. No soda-ever. They get a dessert every night. Like two Oreos, or a 1/2 an ice cream sandwich, or an apple/banana/orange. Summer they get more summer crap snacks-ie: popsicles,ice cream, donuts; but they are also way more active.All my kids do sports. The two year old just walks around and climbs and jumps and plays daily. Tv is on alot but it's more like a background while we do other stuff. Lots of hours that it isn't on too.That said. All of my kids are fit. Lean, strong beautiful healthy bodies. Me- I grew up like you I guess. Clean your plate, too much Atari indoors, or reading Nancy Drew or something, sports were sporadic and not encouraged. My kids know that calories are fuel and you use them then you need more. The know what a kid needs but they don't have to do that work. I do it subconsiously. The older two (9 snd 8) read labels. If someone wants more pasta or something they can trade it for their dessert. Oh, and birthdays/holidays/parties is free for all craptastic time. They can induldge for those 4 or five days a year.I think just being concious, not controlling but directing to good choices and awareness of how our bodies work and how food works for us is enough. The lessons have to fit the age. I don't want girls who are trying or dying to fit some false ideal. Healthy is the goal. And same for boys too, but they are a little different.



That is really good insight. Thank you. I especially like the idea about if they want more pasta, they have to trade it for dessert.

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We have food allergies. When it comes to healthy food, it almost makes it easier, because processed foods and a lot of candy have things that make my oldest very sick and my middle have extremely unpleasant consequences. The youngest, well he's two, he'll eat anything you put in front of him. He just likes food.

We have rules about when candy is ok. It can't be just before a period of sleep. It can't be right before we eat a meal. It can only be a limited quantity, and it's generally a special occasion or treat of some kind (like movie night). Interestingly, when you consider the first two rules, and the fact that my kids never ask for candy in the morning (they just don't), there are very few times when candy is going to happen.

We don't always have dessert, but mostly because we eat kind of late and everyone is a slow eater, not because we are avoiding it.

We always keep fresh fruit in the house. My kids like this as well as (or in the case of my oldest) better than candy. I don't feel bad giving my kids an orange or a banana as part of a snack or after a meal at all.

My oldest just doesn't like most candy, and she definitely will not eat it in any large quantity. The middle will eat more if offered but doesn't like to make herself sick, the youngest is too little to associate candy with the blah pukey feeling that accompanies a sugar overdose.

Eating healthy, makes the junk feel worse. The more we do it the less we can tolerate when we fall off the wagon. We still tend to go in cycles where we have a couple crazy months were we eat more pancakes and fast dinners than we eat lovingly prepared meals, but then we have a period where it is the opposite way and we forget how to order pizza.

I wish we were more active. I have a sun allergy and it limits how much we can be outside. We don't have a fenced play area and my oldest is not old enough to watch the youngest on her own. Soon, but not yet. Still they get a bit of running time and they are always moving inside the home.

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i think there are a few "worst things".

Juice. It's poison. Only good for a home that lives off the grid and makes their own from fruit trees. If someone else grew the fruit, you shouldn't be drinking it in juice.


Dessert. ABSOLUTELY THE WORST CONCEPT. You are teaching a child: eat good healthy food. follow your hunger and satiety cues. Eat until you are full. and then: eat some more. Dessert conditions a child not to feel like dinner is over, (kinda like not perceiving she is full), until she gets to the sweet. It is a destructive habit that ruins a childs inborn sense of hunger, eating and satiety. It's the conditioning that makes it bad.
I do NOT think the cookies or candy or ice cream are the problem, it's just the connection with ending a meal with them. I would have no problem with the child having the sweets a few hours later when she is actually hungry again.

Eating in front of a screen: tv, computer, videogame,etc. Again, it ruins the ability to sense satiety.

I am obese and have four lean, healthy kids.

sanssona


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llandar wrote:Well, we know ONE thing you're not feeding your kids: wholesome, nutritious, natural breast milk.

Don't try to change the subject.



Umm yeah I did. All four. Self weaned around 1 1/2 years old....

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sanssona wrote:Umm yeah I did. All four. Self weaned around 1 1/2 years old....



I was referring to the OP of the article, not you. Sorry for the confusion!